公元1776年现在的美国(The United States (1776 AD-Present))——欧美有史以来最伟大的文明

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历史是由胜利者书写的,我的朋友们。在1914年的德国,如果他们赢了,每个人都会很高兴,纳粹和苏联也是一样。用乔治·奥威尔的话来说,“谁控制过去控制未来,谁控制现在控制过去。”美国控制着现在。如果你读过1984年的书,你应该知道,每个人都认为他们所做的是正确的。在美国控制下的每个人都认为他们所做的是正确的。如果希特勒赢得了这场战争并成功地制造了勒本斯劳姆,我们都会相信犹太人是亚人类的,就像纳粹会控制现在一样。历史是由胜利者书写的。如果苏联赢得了冷战,那么我们认为共产主义对我们世界的影响会比共产主义的影响更大?苏联将控制现在。历史是由胜利者书写的,只有当我们回首几百年后,我们才会知道美国到底是什么样的。还有,还有……更多


History is written by the winners, my friends. Everyone would be 'happy' under 1914 Germany had they won, the same for the Nazi's and the USSR.To quote George Orwell "Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past."America controls the present. If you've read 1984, you'd know everyone thinks what they are doing is right. Everyone under the USA's control thinks what they are doing is right.If Hitler won the war and succeeded in making Lebensraum, we would all believe Jews were sub-human, as the Nazi's would be controlling the present.History is written by the winners.If the USSR won the Cold War, the world would be influenced by Russia and Communism. We would think Communism was better than capitalism (and who's to say we would be 'wrong'?) The USSR would control the present.History is written by the winnersOnly when we look back in hundreds of years will we know what the US really is/was.Also, the ... more

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我并不是说美国是完美的,也不是说美国在所有领域都是最成功的。它有它的缺点,问题是除了国防开支,我们在其他任何领域都没有领先地位,被监禁的公民和信仰基督的人的百分比。其他国家也效仿了我们的模式,拥有我们建国时宣布的自由和权利。我们不再是地球上最自由的国家了。我们喜欢监管一切。所以人们可以合理地说,我们不是最好的。但是,我们是国家。他们是我们为自己是一只重达900磅的大猩猩而自豪,因为我们有一支军队。从建国到70年代,我们只在各个领域取得了进步。我们是一个非常年轻的国家,但我们代表着民主共和国的世界。这里的其他国家都失败了,而美国还没有失败。我们只是现在还不是世界上无可争议的最好的国家。我投票给美国,未来可以是光明的,有正确的基础,过去是伟大的


Its not like I'm saying America is perfect or sits on the pedestal of highest success in all categories. It has and had its faults. The thing is we don't lead in any category other than defense spending, percent of incarcerated citizens and people who believe in christ. Other countries have followed our model and have the liberties and rights we proclaimed in our founding. We are not the freest nation on earth anymore. We like to regulate everything. So people can reasonably say we aren't the best. BUT. We are the States. Their is pride in being the 900 pound gorilla because we do have a FORCE of a military. Since our inception til the 70's we did nothing but advance in all fields. We are a very young nation, but we represent the democratic republic world. Other nations on here have failed and america isn't failing yet. We just aren't the undisputed best in the world right now. I vote america for the future could be bright with the right footing and the past is great.

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“其他国家效仿了我们的模式并享有自由”你听说过法国大革命吗?自由、平等、博爱……是的,这是美国创造的“模范”的源泉。你们有一个伟大的国家,不仅因为你们的军队,而且你们远非一个文明,甚至连一个亲密的文明都没有!


"Other countries have followed our model and have the liberties" have you ever heard about the French revolution? Liberty, equality, fraternity... yes there is the source of the "model" the USA "created". You have a great country no only because of your army but you are far from been a CIVILIZATION not even close!

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我们的革命发生在1764年和1789年,也是我们制定宪法的时候,法国大革命发生在1789年和1799年之后。我们的理想在战争开始之前就已经实现了。而且我们的军队并不是你们国家声望的唯一方面。我们制定了许多政策,进行了许多谈判,以确保人民的安全——2000年


Our revolution occurred during 1764 and 1789, which was also when our constitution was made, the french revolution happened after this 1789 and 1799. our ideal were made way before the war was even started. and our army is not the only facet of your countries popularity. we have made many policies and negotiated many things to ensure the safety of people - browncad000

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我认为,衡量美国作为一个文明国家有多重要,一个很好的指标就是考虑没有它的世界会是什么样子。首先,在第二次劳资战争中,德国或俄罗斯都有可能用铁腕统治世界的大部分地区。只是因为美国的强大,这些国家才被挡在了海湾里第二,美国可能比过去的帝国要小,但这是有选择的。美国可以很容易地完全依靠自己征服世界上的大部分地区,除了俄罗斯或中国。第三,美国通过智能手机、互联网和世界其他地区仍然无法与之竞争的娱乐,迎来了数字时代自从发现火以来,这些东西的分布对世界的影响是如此之深,甚至超过了其他任何东西的发明。最后,美国并不是十全十美的,也不是任何一个可以衡量的规模的世界领导者,但它仍然是一个梦想成真的国家。任何人都可以成为他们想要的任何东西,而且……更多


I believe a good indicator of how important america is as a civilization is to consider what the world would be like without it. First off it's a major possibility either Germany or Russia would rule most of the world with an iron fist after either side won work war 2. It was only because of Americas strength these nations were kept at bay. Secondly America may be smaller than past empires but that's by choice. America could easily conquer most of the world entirely on it's own apart from possibly Russia or China. Thirdly america has ushered in the digital age through smartphones, the internet, and entertainment the rest of the world still can't compete with. The invention and distribution of these things have influenced the world as deeply or more than the invention of anything else since the discovery of fire. Lastly, america isn't perfect or a world leader in almost any measurable scale but it is still the country where dreams come true. Anyone can become anything they want and ... more

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美国正在定义现代西方文化,并影响世界。电视节目、电影业、英语、电子游戏、电脑、智能手机等等。几乎所有定义流行文化的东西都是美国的。还有自由、民主和自由主义等理想,在一定程度上要感谢美国。那些说美国没有文化的人显然不是很聪明。我是说,作为一个有着几千年历史的丹麦人,我可以说丹麦的流行文化深受美国文化的影响。我们去星巴克,在麦当劳吃一个芝士汉堡,在instagram上发布图片,看《权力的游戏》。就像你一样。而且,美国经济实际上占了世界的四分之一。这太疯狂了。而在50年代,它只占了世界的一半。美国是现代罗马帝国。它不仅影响着世界上的一些国家,而且影响着整个世界


The United States is defining modern western culture, and influencing the world. T.V.-shows, the movie industry, the english language, video games, computers, smartphones, etc. Almost everything that defines pop culture was originally American. Also ideals like freedom, democracy and liberalism, were spread thanks in part to the United States. The ones who say America has no culture are clearly not very bright. And I'm saying that as someone from Denmark, a country with thousands of years of history. I can tell that pop culture in Denmark is influenced A LOT by American culture. We go to starbucks, have a cheeseburger at mcdonalds, post pictures on instagram, and watch game of thrones. Just like you. Also, the US economy is literally a quarter of the world. That's insane. And in the 50s it was half. The US is the modern era's Roman Empire. And it doesn't just influence some of the world, but all of it.

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唯一一个将人送上月球的国家,他们是在1969年完成的。与此同时,在其他存在了几千年的地方,人们仍然在用手擦屁股。30年后,美国加利福尼亚州的计算机科学家们正在努力工作,这是计算机联网的开始最终导致互联网的诞生,你可以到这里来问,嗯,有史以来最伟大的文明是什么?人们可以投票给罗马帝国、波斯帝国或其他已经消失的帝国。想想看,美国并不完美,但就文化影响而言,从媒体、体育、电影、娱乐等方面来看,美国是中心。当选官员,保护公民的权利和其他许多东西使美国成为民主的典范。如果公民们能花更多的时间关注他们选出的官员,少花点时间在像跟上节奏这样愚蠢的废话上,美国本身就会更好


Only nation to put a man on the moon and they did it in 1969. Meanwhile in other places that have existed for thousands of years, folks are still wiping their butts with their hands. 30 years later, computer scientists are hard at work in California USA pinging computers for the first time in which would be the beginning of computer networking and eventually lead to the creation of the internet where you can come here and ask, hmm whats the greatest civilization that ever existed? And people can vote for the roman empire or Persians or some other empire that is now GONE.. think about it. The USA isn't perfect but as far as cultural impact goes, from media, sports, movies, entertainment, the USA is the hub. Elected officials, protected rights of citizens and many more things make the United States a model for democracy. The country itself would be in better shape if the citiziens would spend more time paying attention to their elected officials and less time on stupid crap like keep up ... more

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世界上最强大的军事力量,自由的开端和人民为人民的政府。当然,美国没有提出民主或共和的思想,但他们肯定完善了它。美国宪法是今天使用的最古老的宪法,因为开国元勋们有远见使其经得起考验他们打败了“强大的”大英帝国,是第一次和第二次世界大战的决定性因素,在过去的150年里,他们一直是每个移民梦想的目的地。就人权而言,美国一直在努力争取下一个进步的机会,并被称为“熔炉”,它把世界其他国家所能提供的最好的东西带到了一个地方。美国在奥运会上的主导地位就是一个很好的标志。他们在20世纪下半叶超过了另一个超级大国苏联是第一个把人送上月球的国家。世界其他国家想“敲门”…更多


Strongest military in the world, inception of freedom and government by the people for the people. Sure the United States didn't come up with the ideas of democracy or republic, but they certainly perfected it. The U.S. Constitution is the oldest one in use today, because the founding fathers had the foresight to make it withstand the test of time. They defeated the "mighty" British Empire, were the deciding factor in World War I and II, and have been every immigrant's dream destination for the last 150 years. As far as human rights go, the United States is always striving for the next advancement opportunities and is known as the melting pot by bringing the best of what the rest of the world has to offer and combining it in one place. American dominance at the Olympics is a good indicator of this. They outlasted the other superpower of the second half of the 20th century in the a Soviet Union and were the first nation to put a man on the moon. The rest of the world wants to "knock" ... more

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美国的人权是有的,但通常不是因为种族主义者而给予的。美国的种族主义问题肯定比欧洲任何一个国家都要严重,当然也不像你的兄弟加拿大那样。美国是贪婪的,总是利用那里许多人的愚蠢。他们变得富有和强大,是的你一定要看看他们是靠运气和第一次世界大战变得如此强大,他们赚了很多钱,他们没有为我们赢得战争,如果他们不加入,我们就赢了。在第一次世界大战中,战争一经决定,他们就加入了;在第二次世界大战中,他们加入了,但只是岛上跳跃的日本,这对我们来说并不是一个大的威胁,而且在日本也占据了大量的岛屿。你不能说对成千上万的公民使用核武器是强大和强大的事实上,你在很大程度上是在愚弄无辜的公民。你没有完善民主。希腊是一个民主国家,英格兰/荷兰在你被创造之前就是共和国。美国人说他们是民主共和国的创始人,也是民主共和国的完美主义者,因为他们被困在虚假的现实中美国是自由错误、权利错误和技术错误的领导者,因为你时不时发现一些东西的唯一原因就是你花钱而我们不想。我是说,来吧,当你问起俄罗斯在地图上的位置时,有1/2的人和当地人一样困惑。美国也有窃取发明和想法的名声,很多关于发现的声称都是在我们还是一个帝国的时候被英国发明家偷走的。欧洲被第一次世界大战摧毁了,如果这些战争没有发生,那么美国将会比今天的情况更加虚弱,这是一个不可否认的事实美国过去有很多运气和优秀的领导人,但在今天,他们被中国嘲笑,中国预计很快就会超过美国。美国确实有一些令人难以置信的发现,过去也做了许多值得注意的事情,但在很大程度上,他们无法击败韩国,越南或伊拉克你可能会声称你赢了这些,但世界其他国家不同意。美国必须适应世界,否则将面临毁灭,他们不愿意就他们的过去进行辩论或讨论,很多美国人都在努力寻找地图上的国家,如俄罗斯、法国和英国


Human rights in America are there but not always given (usually because racists). The racism problem in the U.S is worse then any country in Europe for sure and not like your brother who always behaves himself, Canada.America is greedy and has always exploited the stupidity of a lot of the people there. They became rich and powerful, yes. You must look at the fact that they became so strong by luck and WW1/2 (which they made tons of money out, they didn't win the war for us and if they were to not join we would have won. In WW1 they joined once the war was decided and in WW2 they joined but just Island hopped Japan which were not a big threat to us and also too occupied with hopping islands in Japan. You can't call nuking hundreds of thousands of citizens being strong and mighty when in reality you nuked innocent citizens for the most part).You didn't perfect the democracy/republic... Greece was a democracy and England/Netherlands were republics before you even were created. Americans say that they are the founder of democracy and republics as well as perfector of it because they are trapped in the false reality that America is the leader in freedom (wrong), rights (wrong) and technology (also wrong since the only reason you discover a few things every now and then is because you spend the money and we don't want to. I mean come on, 1/2 of the population is as confused as a native when you ask them where Russia is on the map. America also have a reputation for stealing inventions and ideas, a lot of claiming of discoveries were just stolen by British inventors back when we were an Empire.Europe was destroyed by WW1/2, if these wars didn't happen then America would be much weaker then what it is today and this is an undeniable fact. America has had a lot of luck and good leaders in the past but in modern day they are laughed at by China, who is projected to soon overtake America. The USA does have some incredible discoveries of their own and also have done many noteworthy things in the past but for the most part they can't beat Korea, Vietnam or Iraq (you may claim you won these but the rest of the world doesn't agree). America must adapt to the world or face destruction, they aren't open to debate or discussion on their past and a lot of Americans struggle to find where countries on the map are such as Russia, France and the United Kingdom. - xXStevieXX

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@首先,说美国到处都是种族主义者,或者说他们在任何主要机构中都有实权,这是一个非常无知的立场。当然也有种族主义者,但最不幸的是,只有0.1%的人口恰好是一个非常响亮的少数群体。当你说人权并不总是给予的时候,这显然是错误的。我们是世界上唯一承认言论自由权和携带武器自卫权的国家。而且,你似乎暗示欧洲国家的境况要好得多。英国脱欧、法国大范围骚乱、西班牙加泰罗尼亚人争取独立的斗争,以及能源危机同时,美国最大的政治问题是“另一方是邪恶的”,这是不可避免的,最坏的情况也是令人恼火的,当你不必为自己的国防买单,也不必因为南方的邻国不让任何事情发生在他们身上而卷入重大战争或战争的时候,在世界舞台上做一个好人是很容易的。至于利用人民的愚蠢,美国是一个在推动科技进步方面做得比做得更多的国家世界历史上任何其他文明。就在我脑海中:我们创造了互联网,灯泡,把第一个人送上了月球,研制出了核弹,这对科学来说是一个巨大的进步,并被投放到一个杀害了我们无辜平民的国家,这个国家是现代科技繁荣的发源地,硅谷的公司主导着技术,更不用说美国的大学是世界上最好的大学了,即使是欧洲最聪明的外国智囊也在那里学习或教授图灵、爱因斯坦等等。而且,我们在世界大战中也不是靠运气变得强大的我们通过大力发展制造业来打好自己的牌,然后两次猛冲进来打破僵局。历史学家们一致认为,如果不是美国的干预,一战的春季攻势将压倒盟国。在二战中,美国的钢铁与英国情报和俄罗斯人的血一样重要。而且,我们确实完善了共和国,因为希腊是一个民主国家,是的,但是在2000多年前就垮台了。在那2000年里,专制主义已经占领了英国、法国、俄罗斯等国家。我非常清楚这场光荣的革命,但到了最后,甚至在1776年,王室仍然存在,1776年,君主有权在没有臣民代表的情况下增加其臣民的赋税,并强迫他们收留士兵,在那之前,我们还公开说,自从拿破仑和美国的一个国家进行了1000年的公开战争之后,我们还公开地说,在那之前的1000年里,我们还没有成功地与美国的一个国家进行过一次种族主义的战争。而事实上,在那之前,我们已经成功地与美国的一个国家进行了一场战争。而事实上,在那之前的1000年里,我们还公开地说,在美国的一次革命中,我们还没有成功地与一个美国的你说“像一个土著人一样困惑”是为了表明,面对媒体对英国种族主义的轻描淡写,媒体夸大了美国的种族主义,造成了这样一个场景:英国人认为说“像一个土著人一样困惑”是完全可以的,但是一个美国人说,她的座右铭是“杀戮,强奸,控制,“强奸犯是种族主义者。你批评美国人不知道国家的地理位置也是不公平的。美国本身就有欧洲那么大,有11个州比英国还大。此外,美国人只是不受其他国家的影响,就像世界其他国家受我们影响一样相反,许多美国人能说出很多州的名称和位置,也许比普通欧洲人能说出更多的欧洲国家。说美国人不知道你的国家在哪里意味着他们是愚蠢的,这是1.自负,因为它认为你的国家足够重要,足以为世人所知;2.试着找出田纳西州、马里兰州,弗吉尼亚州和俄克拉荷马州,我们会看到无知的传播是多么的均匀。看到问题了吗?如果你不知道英国人在电视上说的那样,你就不会在意那些英国人在深夜里的电视节目,比如英国人,或者是卢森堡的电视节目,我们使朝鲜陷入僵局,要不是美国,我们从未在越南或伊拉克输掉一场重要的战斗。只是,除非我们消灭全部人口,否则叛乱分子是不能被打败的;当它是世界上最强大的力量的时候,它失去了一个财富帝国给了美国的一群穷苦农民


@xXStevieXX first of all it's a very ignorant stance to say that the United States is full of racists, or that they have any real power in any major institution. Sure there are racists, but only 0.1% of the population maximum (unfortunately they happen to be a very loud minority). And when you say human rights are not always given, that is also so demonstrably false. We are the only country in the world that recognize the right to free speech and the right to bear arms for defense. Also, you seem to imply that the European countries are a lot better off. Brexit in Britain, widespread riots in France, the Catalonian fight for independence in Spain, and the energy crisis in Germany. Meanwhile, America's biggest political problems is "the other party is evil and bad" which is inevitable and annoying at worst. Also, for Canada, it's easy to be the nice guy on the world stage when you don't have to pay for your own national defense and don't involve in a major battle or war because their neighbors to the South won't let anything happen to them.As for exploiting the stupidity of the people, America is the country that has done more to further science and technology than any other civilization in the history of the world. Right off the top of my head: we created the internet, the light bulb, sent the first man to the moon, developed the nuclear bomb (which was a massive step for science, and was dropped on a country which had killed our innocent civilians), and was the birthplace of the modern technological boom, with Silicon Valley companies dominating technology. Not to mention that American universities are by far the best in the world. Even the most brilliant foreign minds of Europe studied or taught in them (Turing, Einstein, ect).Also, we didn't become powerful by luck in the world wars. We played our cards right by pumping up manufacturing, and then swooped in to break the stalemate both times. Historians agree that the Spring Offensive of WWI would have overwhelmed the Allies if not for US intervention. In WWII, American steel was just as important as British intelligence and Russian blood.Also, we definitely have perfected the republic, because Greece was a democracy, yeah, but fell over 2,000 years ago. In that 2,000 years, absolutism had gained hold of countries like Britain, France, Russia, ect. I am very aware of the Glorious Revolution, but at the end of the day, even in 1776, the royal family was still and still is present. And in 1776, the monarch had the power to increase taxes of its subjects without the representation of its subjects, and forced them to quarter and house soldiers, the same soldiers that openly fired at the American public. American Revolution was fought over the fact that Americans had no say in their government, and was the first country since Rome 1,000 years prior to accomplish this successfully, whereas France swapped a monarch with a Napoleon. Also kind of ironic that you said we're racist and then you say " as confused as a native." Serves to show that media exaggeration of America's racism in the face of the media's downplaying of British racism creates a scenario where British people think saying "as confused as a native" is perfectly fine, but an American saying that MS-13, whose motto is "kill, rape, control," rapists is racist.Also it's unfair that you critique Americans for not knowing locations of countries. America itself is the size of Europe, and 11 of our states are larger than Britain. Additionally, Americans just are not affected by other countries in the same way that the rest of the world is affected by us. Instead, many Americans can name and locate plenty of states, probably more European countries that an average European can name. Saying Americans not knowing where your country is means they are dumb is 1. egotistical, since it assumes that your country is important enough to be known universally and 2. try locating Tennessee, Maryland, Virginia, and Oklahoma, and we'll see how evenly spread the ignorance is. See the problem? British people care just as much about the location of Oklahoma as Americans care the location of Luxembourg. You say we can't name UK or China, but that's not true. If you cite late night TV shows interviewing people on Hollywood Blvd, I would have you know that literally everyone knows those are staged.As for Korea, Vietnam, and Iraq, we made Korea a stalemate (SoKo would not exist if it weren't for America), we never lost a major battle in either Vietnam or Iraq. It's just that insurgents cannot be beaten unless we wipe out the entire population. Your beloved Britain should know that; it lost an empire of wealth to a ragtag group of farmers in America when it was the greatest power in the world. - samagra

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